Baba Ji : Watch this: There is one ‘Sai Baba’ on this Earth right now. He has 50 million followers from just the last 70 years of his life. Our religion has the greatest book ever written, but in 500 years we have the most hatred in our temples, in our community.
One prosperous Brahmgiani (God-conscious being) Sai Baba, in 70 years has 50 million followers. And he has declared the same Absolute Truth which is hidden in the bani. That LOVE is the only moment of God’s heart entering Maya. That love is the real diamond. Spontaneous love happens every moment, throughout the universe.
He who catches it, lives it. His whole family, village and the religion will slander him, but once he dies, they will write songs about him. They will call them ‘heer ranja’ (great lovers in an Indian story). They will call them Nanaks.
They lived that moment of love. Love is Satnaam. Satnaam produces love.
H : religious people destroy love, even at camps.
Baba Ji : Not the religious Sants, though some Sants did. Whoever is being controlled by keski’s (woman’s turbans), that is the killing (of their heart wanting to be beautiful, but religion telling them how to dress). That is arrogant and ignorant. We (Sikhs) point our fingers towards the Muslims saying ‘look at them, she wears a burqah’ (covering). What else are you doing? (Sikhs are proud of the story when Guru Amar Das Ji refused to let women come to see him until they took off their veil. He wanted to show them they were equally entitlted to be free as were the men. But now some Sikh groups (Narrow-minded religious people) insist women should wear turbans, and look down upon the ones who don’t.)
In the game of love, woman is trying hard to become a man, man is trying hard to become a woman. But, what are we doing? We are trying to (physically) make our woman in Sikhism look like the men.
(Baba Ji explained to me that there are male and female energies running the universe. Male and female energies are inside each person too. Male is represented by the hot sun, and female by the cool moon. A man starts off hot but wants to cool down. A woman has more moon energy and needs sun energy to balance her. Both are looking to balance those energies within. Meditation balances them and enlightenement occurs. The Kundalini energy rises up three energy channels up the spine – one is IDA represented by MOON, one is PINGALA represented by SUN and the other is SUSHMANA – the balancer. The SHUSMANA is actually God within us. It can be called Vishnu too – the SUSTAINER. Then the other two energies get called Brahma (Creative) and Shiva (Destructive). Our aim is to bring male and female, sun and moon, Shiva and Brahma into balance. Then we can hear the subtle psychic thoughts, what people call sixth sense or intuition, or in bani “tat gian” (real wisdom). We receive these psychic pieces of divine wisdom direct from God through the Shushmana. If we run our mind according to those thoughts it will become one mind. Going from three minds (creative, destructive and sustainer) we become one mind with one focus – what bani calls IK MAN IK CHIT. Becoming totally, 100% on SATNAAM, our energy rises from the Kundalini, up the Shushmana, the third eye and tenth gate are opened and we connect with the Supreme Energy – God Himself. Baba Ji calls this “busting the trikuti – openeing the third eye”. After that we have defeated Dharam Raj, meaning our actions are no longer judged, because our body is being run by God now. Shushmana is his golden string in the hands of God the puppeteer who makes our puppet body dance. Our mind has been defeated. Man jeetay Jag Jeet.)
If God was so concerned about this kesh (hair), wrappings and trappings, then why did He keep birth naked and death naked? Ever thought about that?
I dont know any narrow-minded religious people people here or in india, but from your write ups it appears that just as they did bad to you, you are doing the same to them. So what is the difference?
Why make fun of keski? I dont know anyone who wears one, yet feel that keski bashing is as inappropriate
as kesh bashing.
When bhai gurdas says that kaljug can be crossed by Guru Nanak, why would one feed at the sarovars of Zen or Sai baba or abc?
just seeking answers…no offence meant..
ANSWER IN CAPS BY DASSAN DAS Ji.
Answer in lowercase by H.
IK OANKAAR SATNAAM SATGUR PARSAAD
THANKS A ZILLION TIMES FOR BRINGING THIS TRUTH OUT. WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE OF THE TRUTH. GOD BLESS YOU WITH ALL THE DIVINE WISDOM AND THE POWER AND COURAGE TO DISSEMINATE THIS DIVINE WISDOM TO THE MASSES ALL OVER THE WORLD AND ENLIGHTEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING ROBBED IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.
Thanks for putting your thoughts down. When baba ji was telling me all this stuff, I also felt he must be angry at Narrow-minded religious people for how they treated him and other mona’s at the gurdwara and how they tried to kill him at his house. Then I thought isn’t he slandering them? But as the week went on, baba ji explained that he doesn’t hate them , he just wants them to mellow out. Baba ji said it is easy to ferry across the ones you love, but a saint also has to ferry across his slanderers too. That how much love a saint has for god in everyone. He said some people are so pure and innocent that they used to get enlightenment very quickly, but he said the hardheads need a baseball bat to crack their ego.
NO SANT CAN HATE ANYBODY, A SANT IS SINGLE VISION – EK DRISHT, A SANT IS NIRVAIR, A SANT HAS NO ANIMOSITY FOR ANYBODY, FOR A SANT THERE IS NO DIVISION, THERE IS NO SEPARATION, THERE IS JUST ONE JYOT IN EVERYONE, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NIRGUN AND SARGUAN, HIS LOVE FOR EACH AND EVERYONE IS EQUAL AND PURE, A SANT CAN NEVER SLANDER ANYBODY OR ABUSE ANYBODY OR CURSE ANYBODY. A TRUE SANT WILL NEVER EMPHASIZE ON OUTSIDE COMPLIANCE, A TRUE SANT WILL ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE INSIDE CLEANSING, A TRUE SANT WILL ALWAYS TALK ABOUT NAAM AND NOTHING ELSE, A TRUE SANT IS A WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIA OF THE DIVINE WISDOM, THE DIVINE WISDOM COMES FROM WITH IN WHEN ALL THE SAT SAROVARS ARE ENLIGHTENED AND THE ENTIRE BODY BECOMES A AMRIT SAROVAR – PART OF THE MANSAROVAR. A SANT WILL ALWAYS SPEAK THE TRUTH, SEE THE TRUTH, HEAR THE TRUTH, DELIVER THE TRUTH AND SERVE THE TRUTH.
I did a lot of Narrow-minded religious people sangat in the UK during the 90s. Everything baba ji says is true about them. I even followed their rehats. The net result of their interpretation of Sikhism is oppression of the heart. I know so many sikh youth who get put off sikhism when they see what narrow-minded religious people are doing. In UK and Canada the Narrow-minded religious people are not sitting quietly dong their own bhagati. They are running camps, gurdwaras etc and preaching anti-sants and seeing other sikh groups and other religions as less than them. They go to the extreme of eating from iron utensils, even at gurdwara they wont take prashad because it wasnt made in sarab-loh. Or they make their own langar and eat it separately. They oppress their kids. So many suicides have happened in Narrow-minded religious people families. At the gurdwara they wont let girls without keskis do kirtan. They run camps and do the best kirtan, but when their views of sikhism come out it scares the hell out of most people, and the ones who do follow it become very hardcore and politically minded, anti-Hindu, Anti-Muslim and anti-Sant. They are breeding hate, and no one opposes them. If anyone does their anger boils over and they are ready to kill someone for it.
GOD LIVES IN THE HIRDA AND IF HIRDA IS OPPRESSED THEN WHERE WILL GOD
LIVE, IF THE HIRDA IS A HARDCORE THEN WHERE WILL GOD LIVE, IF HIRDA
IS FULL OF EGO AND HATE FOR OTHERS THEN WHERE WILL HIRDA LIVE, GOD
LIVES IN A HUMBLE AND GARIBI VES HIRDA AND IN SUCH A HIRDA THERE IS
NO HATRED AND ANIMOSITY FOR ANYBODY, THEN HOW GOD LIKE QUALITIES OF
HUMBLENESS, GARIBI VES HIRDA, KINDNESS AND FORGIVENESS CAN COME IN
SUCH A HIRDA WHICH IS A EGOISTIC HARDCORE AND FULL OF HATRED FOR
THOSE NOT BELONGING TO A PARTICULAR MAN MADE GROUP OF PEOPLE. THE
AKHAND KIRTAN IS A NON STOP DARGAHI KIRTAN – ANHAD SHABAD – ROM ROM
NAAM SIMRAN THAT GOES ON IN A GURMUKH SOUL AND BODY ON A CONTINUOUS
BASIS, IT IS THE ATAM RUS – THE HIGHEST AMRIT THAT FLOWS IN AND OUT
OF A GURMUKH SOUL AND BODY ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS AND A GURMUKH SOUL
IS THE ONE WHICH IS NIRVAIR AND EK DRISHT, SO HOW CAN AKHAND KIRTAN
BE THE PROPERTY OF A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY
HAVE TO TOTALLY DEVIATED FROM THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF THE DIVINITY AND
DIVINE WISDOM THAT WERE LAID DOWN BY THE GURU SAHIBANS. THESE PEOPLE
NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUE ETERNAL MEANING OF THE AKHAND KIRTAN.
I saw all these things when I did their sangat for 5 years. But I knew something was wrong, because God would always put the thought in my head "But Guru nanak ji loved everyone, so how can Narrow-minded religious people’s view be right?" And eventually I drifted away from the Narrow-minded religious people tribe. But didn’t have courage to speak out against their beliefs. So when I met Baba ji it was amazing that he was saying the same thing that I had felt and seen.
WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WITH 40+ YEARS OF Narrow-minded religious people SANGAT WITH VERY LITTLE SPIRITUAL ACHIEVEMENTS, FOR THESE PEOPLE THE HEIGHT OF SPIRITUAL WORLD IS JUST THE OUTSIDE COMPLIANCE AND THEY ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE TRUE INSIDE COMPLIANCE, THE COMPLIANCE OF WINNING THE PANJ DOOTS, THE COMPLIANCE OF WINNING OVER THEIR DESIRES, THE COMPLIANCE OF WINNING OVER THE MAYA COMPLETELY, THE COMPLIANCE OF THE AKHAND KIRTAN – ANHAD SHABAD – ROM ROM NAAM SIMRAN, THE COMPLIANCE OF BECOMING A SINGLE VISION, THE COMPLIANCE OF PURAN JYOT PARKASH INSIDE THE HIRDA, THE COMPLIANCE OF BECOMING NIRVAIR AND NIRBHAO, THE COMPLIANCE OF BECOMING SAT ROOP, THE COMPLIANCE OF BECOMING GURBANI, THE COMPLIANCE OF SEEING NIRGUN IN SARGUN, THE COMPLIANCE OF UNCONDITIONAL DEVOTIONAL LOVE FOR EACH AND EVERY CREATION OF THE CREATOR.
If BAba ji is Narrow-minded religious people "bashing" it is not because he hates them and is slandering them. No, he is trying to free them from the hatred their beliefs have bred in them. That is the greatest seva, to ferry across the ones who have tried to kill you.
THIS IS THE REAL CHAD DI KALA –THE NAAM LIVES IN SUCH A HIRDA WHO LOVES SO MUCH EVERY ONE INCLUDING HIS SLANDERERS THAT HE WANTS THEM TO BE FERRIED ACROSS IN SPITE OF GETTING ALL THE ABUSE AND BEATING FROM THESE PEOPLE.
Regarding Baba Nanak ji, the Budhists declared him as the LAMAA. The Hindus as their Guru and the Muslims as their PIR. Because the things he talked about in gurbani are already in their belief systems. Baba nanak ji talks about the seven lakes ..sat sarovars….other philosophies call it 7 chakras. Baba nanak ji says that the upside lotus comes right way around in your heart. That idea is from budhism. And it is not just an idea, it is fact when you go into smadhi and your seven chakras open, you will see lotus flower.
All great saints of Zen, Sai Baba and the Gurus and bhagats had a human body same as each other. They experienced God inside themselves and called the same things by different names. Who was Guru Nanak ji’s Guru, Jesus’s Guru, Mohammeds’ Guru? Their Guru was the Highest Guru, God Himself, the One God named Truth ..SAT NAAM. If we say that Baba Nanak ji ferries across people in this dark age, it actual means SATNAAM inside Guru Nanak ji saves everyone. Just as Satnaam inside Jesus saved his followers, and Satnaam inside Mohammded ji saved his followers.
Guru Gobind Singh ji said that his guru is the one who is One from beginning to end ..aad ant ekay avtara, soee guru samjio hamaraay. All the Guru and saints only wanted us to remember and love the One God, they didn’t come to get themselves worshipped as God. If Christians make Jesus as their highest Guru, and Muslims make Mohammed into the Highest Guru, and Sikhs make Guru Nanak into the Highest guru, then they have all made God less than He is. They have made a lesser god. And that is why Narrow-minded religious people, hardcore Muslims, and hard core Christians, Jews Hindus etc cant accept that any other prophet or religion as being valid. They have to raise their thinking up to the Highest level and make SATNAAM ..the Truth, into the Highest Guru. Then they will see all as One, and all is one.
A SANT SATGURU A PURAN BRAHAM GYANI HAS NO MAN MADE RELIGION, HE IS ABOVE ALL RELIGIONS, CASTES AND CREADS, FOR HIM THERE IS ONLY ONE RELIGION AND THAT IS THE PARAM JYOT NIRGUN SAROOP, FOR HIM THE TRUE RELIGION IS BRINGING IN ALL THE DIVINE QUALITES INSIDE THE HIRDA AND PRACTICING THESE DIVINE QUALITIES, FOR HIM THE RELIGION MEANS PURE LOVE AND NOTHING ELSE, FOR HIM THE RELIGION IS FULL FAITH AND TRUST IN THE AKAL PURAKH, FOR HIM THE RELIGION IS THE MANAS KI JAAT SABHEY EKHI PEHCHANBO.