Dassan Dass: Satnaam jee
Preeto: Satnaam ji, dandauth bandhna ji.
Dassan Dass: how are you doing today
Preeto: Yes we are doing better today, more determind to do our simran, just get bit off track over the weekend, went to stay with relatives for couple of days so got a bit off track, have realised not to let other things get in the way. Week before we were feeling like ParBrahm was right infront of us in full glorious glory.
Dassan Dass: yes please focus yourself.
Dassan Dass: Naamjeevan Jee saw Jaspal Jee’s mom in Dargah (God’s divine Court). She is enjoying the langar over there very much.
Preeto: yes, she couldnt eat over here – stomach cancer.
What should we say to a family when someone dies, we went around and said to uncle “sorry to hear about Aunty ji” and when we said it to N ji she replied, “there is nothing to be sorry about” which is true, but just the custom to say, so what do we say to show we sympathize?
Dassan Dass: you should say “she has completed her Swaas (breaths), she was a wonderful soul, she is sitting in Dargah now.” There is nothing to feel sorry about.
Preeto: yes, that is the Truth, no need to try and make ourself feel sad by showing sad face or saying sorry like if it is bad news, it is all as it had to be. That is all just Maya’s illusion of how we are supposed to act when someone dies.
Dassan Dass: this is God’s will – Hukam “jamnaa marnaa Hukam hai bhaney aawey jaavey – birth and death is His Command, according to His will we come and go.” So saying sorry is going against Hukam
You should have said “the Hukam prevails, and that is what has happened for her” and we should all accept this with open mind. Nothing can change the Hukam.
Preeto: yes, thank you , we will say that in future. We also said to Uncle ji that Guru Nanak Dev ji also says that only MOH (attachment thief) cries for what it has lost, but actually soul never cries, and to remember all the kindness and goodness she brought into his life, rather than focusing on what he has lost.
Dassan Dass: that was a good message
Preeto: Yes he looked like he had been crying a lot that day.
Dassan Dass: crying doesn’t help. It creates a string of Karma for you.
Dassan Dass: because you are going against the Hukam. Whilst crying there is a lot of stuff that goes through your mind and actions and words. That creates a string of new Karma for you. Anytime you go against the Hukam Karma is created.
Preeto: ok ji, yes not accepting what has happened is shown by crying – actually a way of complaining to God about what has happened, hence going against the His Hukam, yes.
Dassan Dass: living in Hukam is living in Sat and no effect of Karma at all. That is what a sant does, He lives in Hukam. All his senses are in Hukam. All his karam indrees (limbs e.g. hands, feet etc) are in Hukam. All he does is in Hukam, because munmat (self wisdom) is eliminated. Gurmat (divine wisdom) takes over. Param jyot puran parkash (Supreme Light Complete Brightness) takes over. Divine wisdom takes over. There is no identity – no Karma. No individuality – no Karma. All is Sat. All is parupkaar (living for others) and maha parupkaar (saving others). So there remains no question of Karma anywhere
so live in Hukam and delete the effect of Karma. And that will happen only when param jyot puran parkash infinite divine power takes over and identity is lost. Haumai dies, jivan mukti (liberation)comes.
Preeto: and Baba ji said only a Brahmgiani understands and lives completely in the Hukam, so until we are Brahmgiani to come under the guidance, the charan saran (foot shelter) of a Brahmgiani, and live according to their BrahmGyan – that is the Hukam for us. Otherwise for most of us we cant tell what is Hukam and what is not.
Dassan Dass: that is true
Preeto: Someone said that when we hear some new gyan , accept it within 3 seconds, accept it is the Truth and part of you and just do it. That is so true of how someone has progressed so fast, as soon as he accepted the BrahmGyan you gifted them in his mind, inside himself, he complied and he put it into practise. It is as simple as that, like when he read that Dasvandh goes to your Guru first, he did it right away. From the smallest pearl of divine wisdom to the biggest gyan, he just accepted it right away, now we know he called it the 3 second rule. N ji said she gives herself 10 seconds because she’s needs a bit more time !!! We ourself have probably taken 8 years to accept some things like being strict with amritvela and disciplined!!!!! At first we resist so much to accepting the Truth, then we start accepting it more and more as our faith develops in our SatGuru ji, and as our doubts and questions start reducing.
We remember Baba ji saying that the more we give up of our illusions of our munmat of our attachments (even to our old beliefs) the more amrit there is, the more joy there is.
Dassan Dass: THAT IS ALL TRUE
DO IT WITHOUT ANY DELAY AT ALL
RIGHT FROM THE SAME MOMENT
THE MOMENT YOU START DOING IT YOU WILL GO UP THE SAME MOMENT
HIGHER IN SPIRITUALITY
Preeto: But we – stubborn part of the mind – just wants to hold on to the old beliefs, the old patterns of thinking, the old negative thoughts, even though we know there is no joy in them. We have really noticed that about ourself recently, and have realised not to listen to that side of the mind anymore, not to give it any more power by spending time in those thoughts, just to do simran instead, to focus on SatNAAM and we realise thatis how our mind is getting straightened. and that is wha you wrote in Sukhmani Katha that the Sadh is the one who has straigthened his mind.
Dassan Dass: THAT IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS
EARNING THE WORDS OF A BRAHAM GYANI
NO QUESTIONS, JUST DO IT RIGHT THERE AND THEN AND END UP IN DARGAH
REASON FOR BLOCKAGE AND ROAD BLOCKS IS NOT DOING AND NOTHING ELSE
THIS IS A DIVINE LAW AND CAN’T BE BROKEN
IT IS A MANDATORY DIVINE LAW
DO WHAT GURU TELLS YOU TO DO
AND THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS
LOOK AT SOMEONE AS YOU SAID
WE HAVE NOT EVEN MET HIM ONCE IN PHYSICAL
AND WITHOUT MEETING US HOW HE WENT IN TO THE DARGAH
SAME THING HAPPEND WITH NARESH JEE
PEOPLE IN THE SANGAT WHAT NAAMJEEVAN DID DIFFERENTLY, WHAT
THIS IS WHAT THEY DID DIFFERENTLY
FOLLOWED GURU’S WORD
IN REAL LIFE
EVERY SINGLE MOMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY
AND WITH EVERY SINGLE BREATH.
Preeto: That is the Truth ji – Sat Bachan. The hardest thing we find, and think most people find when coming onto this path, or whenever they start something new, is they are excited and motivated for a while, then it wears off and then we end up back in old lifestyle, then DUKH comes and wakes us up again, and we focus again for a while, then go back to old ways, and dukh comes again – and years and years go by like this. In sangat on Friday, N ji is really stressing everyweek to everyone to do their Bhagti with 100% committment, but every week many just come back saying they need to try harder, havent been able to do it etc etc. In the end N ji said to all of us , if we really want to do it we would just do it, not make excuses. and if we dont want to do it, then stop trying to fool others in sangat that we need to beg or try harder, because she said she can look at our face an know right away what we really are.
And if we dont want to do it then look inside and ask ourself why not? And deal with the reall obstacles, maybe we still want to indulge in maya. We noticed with the Sants in the sangat they had finished with Maya’s false dreams, they were in dukh and they were 100% committed, determind and focused everyday, with every breath to earn Satguru ji’s GYAN.
Dassan Dass: SHE IS TELLING YOU THE TRUTH
COMMITTMENT IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS
NO EXCUSES WORK.
Preeto: Yes, she is telling us the Truth and we accept it. Either we want to do it, so JUST DO IT. Or we dont, so go off and enjoy maya and come back later if and when we ever really do want to do it.
Dassan Dass: YOU WILL HAVE TO DO IT ONE DAY FOR SURE
Preeto: Commitment is everything, you asked for commitment from sangat when you came to
Dassan Dass: DO IT NOW OR DO IT IN NEXT JANAM
OR NEXT JANAM OR NEXT OR NEXT
BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO DO IT FOR SURE
Preeto: Yes, N ji said all the BrahmGian is on the website, anyone can become Brahmgiani from it IF THEY WANT TO. Rest of sangats we have at her house and talks she gives us and emails and forums etc we realise are just to keep everyone motivated. But, really we are not capable of motivating anyone, either we are like Someone ji and go for it 100% or we are just travelling with one foot in the boat of maya and one foot in the boat of sangat, and not really getting anywhere in either boat.
Dassan Dass: THAT IS ALL PURAN SAT WHAT SHE IS TELLING.
SHE SPEAKS FROM DARGAH.
Preeto: Yes, and DUKH IS DARU – we are all so stubborn in our maya ways, so DUKH is THE ONLY DARU for us and SUKH IS ROG, comforts are the disease we are rotting in.
Dassan Dass: SO SATGUR SLAPS YOU WITH DUKH WHEN YOU GO BACK TO MAYA BECAUSE THAT IS NOT YOUR DESTINY.
YOUR DESTINY IS TO BE IN DARGAH.
THAT IS WHY YOU ARE IN THIS SANGAT.
AND FOR NO OTHER REASON.
Preeto: And with your blessings we are determined to go back HOMe now, whatever it takes. Just to stay focused, stay disciplined in amritvela and simran all day long, stay focused on working as seva whilst at work, staying forcused on being helpful and kind to family instead of trying to control them.
Dassan Dass: YES PLEASE.
Preeto: thankyou for everything ji, dandauth bandhna ji.
Dassan Dass: GOD BLESS YOU.