4. Ardas – Praying For Fulfillment of Worldy Desires

 

With the Agami Anant Apaar and Beant Kirpa of the Guru and Paar Braham Parmeshwar we have been trying to disseminate Guru’s divine knowledge needed for realizing our spiritual dreams. The purpose of this effort is to give Puran Gyan needed for Puran Bhagtee, and until there is a lack of Puran Gyan and the effort to adopt the Puran Gyan in our daily lives we can’t move on this path to Sach Khand. This is not just theory, it has been followed very meticulously by our Sangat and is being followed on a daily basis with tremendous success.

There is no place for demands pertaining to the worldly things in the Puran Bhagtee –

 

 

 When You, O Lord, restrain someone from asking for wealth,
 then, O Nanak, he comes to love the Name. ||1||

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 He sees, He hears,
and without our asking,
without our begging,
He gives His gifts.

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When we combine Bhagtee with material demands, then we are not performing Bhagtee with an intention to enhance our spirituality, but we remain selfish to satisfy our worldly needs. This is a common practice among the Sangat to restore to such Ardaas for fulfilling personal material and family needs. This is a serious road block in the way of our spiritual progress. This is yet another evil practice that we are following on a daily basis, it has become a part of our society and our daily lives, it is eating away our spiritual values and pushing us backwards on a daily basis, it is another evil present in our society that is responsible for our spiritual degradation.

 

Like "Selling and Buying Gurbani" this is another illusion that we all are living with in the society. In a way this evil is connected with the "Selling and Buying of Gurbani" – if we look back each one of us will find a lot of instances when we have prayed to the Almighty conditionally for achieving material and worldly gains, infact we are doing this on a daily basis, and this is like paying bribe to the Akal Purakh for getting a particular job done the way we want it to happen.

 

Every time we do something religious our actions are attached with the strings of worldly demands and personal gains.  All our (so called) religious actions are connected with the selfishness and greed, they are hardly selfless and pure. The places of worship and the religious actions of the individuals and society have become a business in our modern day lifestyle. This is the “Loonharami and Pakhand” – hypocritical part of the religion – Dharam, and is the biggest illusion we all are living in. This is one of the prime reasons for our spiritual degradation and that of our families and the society and Panth. The management of such religious places has become a big political game in modern day society, and we as individuals and families are responsible for this state of today’s affair.

The word Ardaas has been used over one hundred times in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and not even one of these verse’s are telling us to do Ardaas for worldly things. We should look into these verses for
learning what should be praying the Akal Purakh for, what should we be asking Him to give to us. However, it is hard to explain each one of these verses, but on Page 1420 Guru Ram Dass Ji has made an extremely beautiful conclusion:

 He knows everything, without being told;
unto whom should we offer our prayers?

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Ask yourself the following questions:

If we truly believe that God is omnipresent and knows everything then where is the question to ask Him for anything? 

 

When He ALREADY knows all our needs and problems then why do we pray for worldy things before Him? 

 

When He is a “Dana Dina” – very kind to all His creations, and He is taking care of all His creations, then why do we worry about asking anything from Him?  

 

When everything we get in life is according to our past actions (our Karam Kand) then how will paying priests to do “ARDAS” and pray for our material wants change anything?   

 

People obtain that which they are pre-ordained to receive.

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When we are responsible for our deeds and we will have to pay for them then why do we ask for anything from Him?

 

When our fate is already cast in stone by Him before He sent us in this life, when everything is precisely predestined and pre determined by Him for us then what Ardaas will work? 

 

By praying for worldly demands, He is not going to change our fate.

 

By doing Ardaas for worldly things we are completely ignoring the Braham Gyan of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.  None of these verses pertaining to the Ardaas as described in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are connected to demanding the worldly things.

 

All the verses containing the word “Ardaas” are connected to praying for Naam, Bhagtee, Seva and Sangat of enlightened souls.  That is what matters and that is what :-

 

  • helps in the spiritual uplift of our soul and mind,

 

  • helps us in controlling the five thieves,

 

  • what will kill our ego, hopes, desires and wishes.

 

Do “ardas” for  the Sangat of Sant, Satguru, Sadh and Braham Gyanis.   Because only these enlightened souls can

 

  • change our fate

 

  • enlighten our Hirda

 

  • open our receptors – our spiritual doorways (Bajjar Kapaats)

 

  • show us the light,

 

  • calm down our mind

 

  • clean us from inside,

 

  • aid us in winning over our mind and to become a Sant Hirda.

 

 

Only such souls who are Puran Sant and Puran Braham Gyani are capable of changing our fate – “Lekh”.  Only they can put us on the path to salvation and give us salvation, because only the Ardaas of such a soul who is a Puran Braham Gyani and a Puran Sant, who is absorbed – Abhed – in Akal Purakh will be honored by the Almighty –

 

 The prayer of the Lord’s humble servant is never offered in vain.

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the word “Jan” means the Puran Sant Satguu, Puran Braham Gyani because –

 

 There is no difference between the Lord and the humble servant of the Lord;
O Nanak, know this as true. ||29||

 

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“Jan” is that level of spirituality where there remains no difference between the Akal Purakh and the Bhagat, so the Ardaas of such a highly enlightened soul, who is one on one with God will be heard, and the God will honor His words only because –

 

 (God says : ) “The devotee can release anyone from my bondage,
but I cannot release anyone from his.”

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Only such an enlightened soul can change the Hukam of Akal Purakh and therefore, only such a soul can
change our fate as well.

Let us look at some more verses of Gurbani.

You are our Lord and Master; to You, I offer this prayer (ARDAS).
This body and soul are all Your property.
You are our mother and father; we are Your children.
In Your Grace, there are so many joys!
No one knows Your limits.
O Highest of the High, Most Generous God,
the whole creation is strung on Your thread.
That which has come from You is under Your Command.
You alone know Your state and extent.
Nanak, Your slave, is forever a sacrifice. ||8||4||

 

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This verse is telling us that we should be praying for being grateful to the Akal Purakh, because He has done an unlimited kindness on us by giving us this human life.   This human life is the only way we can reach and realize Him, because only in human life can we merge with Him –

 

 

This human body has been given to you.
This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe.
Nothing else will work.
Join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy;

vibrate and meditate on the Jewel of the Naam. ||1||

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In such a human life all our mind, soul and body belong to Him.  This means that we should be using our mind, soul and body for His service.  We should be serving Him because He is our mother and father, so we should be serving Him and obey Him like His obedient and most humble children.  By doing so we will be able to enjoy the unlimited blessings from Him and will always be happy and peaceful from inside.

 

 

Almighty is unlimited and infinite.  There is nothing higher than Him.  There is nothing which is more powerful and better than Him.  Everything is happening according to His order – Hukam.  Only He knows His limits and boundaries, nobody else knows His limits and boundaries.  Only He knows completely about Himself, and we should always sacrifice our life for the sake of serving Him.  We should all be very thankful to Him with every breath, every second for being so kind to us for giving this precious human life where we can try and merge in Him.

Your servant offers this prayer, O Beloved:
I live by meditating on Your Feet, God. ||1||

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There is no material element in this one too. The real life and enjoyment is in the Charans of Akal Purakh Paar Braham Parmeshwar, so that is what we should be praying for.

 

 

Let us make it clear over here that there is nothing bigger and better than God Himself, so why are we engaging ourselves in asking for small and worldly things?  Why don’t we ask for Him Himself?  When His Naam is His biggest gift, then why ask anything smaller than that?  We know He is very kind and will definitely one day bless us with His Gurparsadi Naam, when we know that –

 

 

The nine treasures are in the Amrit Name of God.

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when Naam is the priceless eternal treasure –

 

 

The Naam is a Priceless Jewel; it is with the Perfect True Guru.

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then why ask for anything less than that?  When Naam is the highest level of comfort and enjoyment, complete silence and Param Jyot Puran Parkash –

 

 

Sukhmani: Peace of Mind( is obtained from), the Amrit  of the Name of God.

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then why ask for trivial things? We should pray for Gurparsadi Naam, Seva and Bhagtee, because that is what is the biggest and highest eternal treasure.

God is power, intellect, understanding, the breath of life,
wealth, and everything for the Saints.
May I never forget Him from my mind, even for an instant –
this is Nanak’s prayer (ARDAS). ||8||2||

 

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This another example of the prayer for eternal happiness and such eternal treasure of happiness is in the Sangat of a Puran Sant, and that is what we should be praying for.

Please take pity on me, and hear my prayer,
that Your servant may behold the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan.

 

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This is what we should be asking for – His Darshan – one on one dialogue with Him, merger with Him, become like Him, always feel Him inside us. This is the real Ardaas, and imagine if this happens then
is there anything else left for asking.


People are suffering,
so do ardas for ‘Liv Laaye’.

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We should be praying for Smadhee – “Liv Laaye” – because that is where the real Bhagtee starts.  That is when we are recognized as a Suhagan of Akal Purakh and get a chance to become a Sada Suhagan.  This is when our Bhagtee account opens in the Dargah.  This is when we go in deep meditation – Sun Smadhee and see divine things, because this is when our Gyan Netter and Dassam Duaar will open, and divine intelligence will start to flow inside us.  This is the stage when the body becomes pure like gold.  All the mental sicknesses are cured and mind becomes stable, it wins over the Five thieves.  This is when the body is filled with Naam Amrit.

Instead of material things, we ought to be praying for

 

 

  • Naam, Bhagtee, Seva, Simran and Parupkaar(living for others). 

 

  • controlling our five thieves,

 

  • killing our ego

 

  • killing our desires, because they are the root cause of all the sorrows,

 

  • restraining from slander, gossip and jealousy,

 

  • helping the poor,

 

  • a complete surrender to the Guru,

 

  • our “Chad Di Kala” – remember only Sada Suhagans remain in Chad Di Kala for ever, and that is what we should be praying for,

 

  • the Sangat of a Puran Sant Satgur, Puan Braham Gyani,

 

  • becoming a completely truthful person and be capable of serving the truth.

 

These are the kinds of prayers we should be offering to the Almighty.

When we do Ardaas for worldly things, which are a part of the Maya and is the “Loonharami” portion of the so called religion, or when such an Ardaas is performed in any religious place then the entire Sangat present there is effected negatively by such an Ardaas. 

 

When we eat Langar at such functions where there is a demand for Maya and worldly comforts by the party donating for Langar Ki Seva, then that Ardaas goes through all the Sangat present at such a place.  This forms a part of the deeds of each person and eventually gets paid back by us in some form or the other, because this Ardaas is not the true Ardaas.   (Even by participating in an ardas for worldy things we share the negativity generated).

 

In this process we all suffer in the longer run, but always stay under the illusion that we participated in an Ardaas for a good cause. There is no place for the Ardaas (connected with worldly demands) for Parshaad or Langar anywhere in Gurbani, infact there should be no such Ardaas at all.

 

Whatever Sangat donates to religious places should not be made public.  There should be no receipts for donations.  Nobody should know what has been donated by whom, because these kinds of practices don’t represent any kind of Gurmat, and rather become a source of ego for the donators.

 

Such donations which are publicly applauded and given recognition among the Sangat are never fruitful, but generate a lot of ego for the donors. Again if we all switch to giving Daswand to the Guru then this evil in the society will be automatically uprooted.

In the end let us take a few minutes and analyze our behavior, let us look at what kind of Ardaas do we do. Are we engaged in the Ardaas for Maya and worldly things, or is our Ardaas is truthful and pious and connected only with Naam, Bhagti and Seva?

 

 This self analysis will put you on the right track right away.

Servant Of Truth

 

Dassan Dass (Slave Of God’s Slaves)

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QUESTIONS FROM R SINGH: Dear Dassan Dass ji

I realise I am much lower than you in a lot of respects. You are spiritually advanced soul. But there is something i read on the web site I felt the need to ask you.

RESPONSE:We are just a humble servant – charan dhool of the entire creation, worth of nothing, just a slave of the slaves. You are most welcome to ask any questions, we are not capable of answering any of your questions, it is the Gurkirpa and Gur Parsaad that makes things happen – there is only one Karta and He is the Supreme Doer and with His eternal grace and Gur Parsaad we will try to answer your questions. One thing more we would like to present at your shree charans is that with the Gur Parsaad and Gur Kirpa this website is dedicated to Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva – Parupkaar and Maha Parupkaar, which is what is the true divine essence of the entire Gurbani and the true divine essence of the lives-(their Dhan Dhan Kamai) of the Guru Sahibans and all the Puran Sants, Puran Braham Gyanis and Satgurus of all ages.  

As per my understanding the main and sole objective of this life is naam-simran, however, Gurbani doesn’t say we should not ask for material benefits. Afterall everything is Him and to live this life material things are required. Even bhagats asked Him for food, shelter and other things – there are two such instances in Aarti.
 
RESPONSE:The sole objective of human life is not just Naam Simran – but the sole objective and purpose of the human life is to reach salvation – obtain Jivan Mukti – Mukti from Maya – Mukti from Janam Maran Key Bandhan – and go back and merge in the Nirgun Saroop – become one with the AlmightY, reach the Braham Gyan State and go in to a Sada Sukhi Statge – always and forever in the eternal divine bliss, and not keep on running after Maya. So in order to achieve this sole objective of the human life the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva is an essential part and that is what this website and the Satsangat is dedicated to. When everything is Him then don’t you think that He knows about your needs as well – when He is sitting inside you – the life element inside you is nothing but God Himself – your physical body runs only due to the Jyot inside you – when the Jyot is withdrawn the physical body dies, so where is the question of asking for anything – do you think that if you ask Him for anything He will give you just like that? And how many times your desires have been fullfilled just by asking Him – Puran Bandgi is winning over the Maya – Panj Doots and Desires – and keeping the desires alive becomes a reason for your reincarnation – Janam Maran Kaa Bandhan – and your sole objective of human life is to get out of this Janam Maran Kaa Bandhan. Those Bhagats which you are referring to were Puran Braham Gyanis – and they have recited Gurbani after reaching the Puran Braham Gyan Stage – so if you reach the Puran Braham Gyan stage then all your desires are conquered, all your Doots are conquered – so do you think that Aarti describes the physical needs and desires of these Bhagats? Or something else? Gurbani is not that easy to understand – it is the language of Sach Khand – it has come from Sach Khand – it has come from Almighty – so how can you understand the depth of the Gurbani without taking a deep dive in to the Mansarovar – it is like asking a forth grader to solve a rocket science problem. The meaning of the Gurbani changes when your Bandgi moves from Dharam Khand to Gyan Khand to Saram Khand to Karam Khand and then to Sach Khand, so inorder to get a glimpse of the Mansarovar you will have to go through the process of Puran Bandgi and earn Jivan Mukti. Please read the First Ashtpadi of Sukhmani Bani – to understand what happens when we collect naam Ki Kamai – Prabh Key Simran Karaj Purey, Prabh Key Simran Gyan Dhyaan Tatt Budh, Prabh Key Simran Ridh Sidh Nao Nidh – by doing Naam Ki Kamai you can achieve a lot more than the worldly comforts, you can obtain all the eternal treasures. Also please read the Gur Parsaadi writings on Gurbani (Harjit Ji Please send him the appropriate links). So if you have to ask for why not ask for God Himself – the Gur Parsaad of His Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva and once you get that then all your Doots and desires will be conquered and the entire creation will become yours.         

The purpose of this email is not to contradict what you are trying to achieve through your website(more awareness of true religion), but it is to seek answers to the questions I have.

RESPONSE:Everything is in Akal Purakh’s Hukam so there is no contradiction, we are very thankful to the Almighty for giving us an opportunity to a truth seeker like you – again the purpose of this website is to bring out the eternal truth – about the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva and help the Sat Sangat realize their sole objective of being in human life – Jivan Mukti.

So continuing with my query, I would like to know who do ask for material things if not God. There is an understanding that material things follow you once you focus on Lord and His name, Gurbani also says so. But people are distressed and they need material comforts.
 
RESPONSE:Your material gains are connected to your Karams – Jeyha Beejey So Luney Karma Sandra Kheyt – whatever you will sow so shall you reap – this is a mandatory divine law – you are the creator of your own destiny – if your Karams are Sat Karams then your future will be good, if your Karams are Asat Karams then your future will be full of pains and sorrows – so make all your Karams Sat Karams and shape your future accordingly. Based on your past Karams your current destiny is carved in stone – no matter what you are bound to pay for your bad deeds and enjoy the benefit of your good deeds oin the past of your this life and all the previous lives – so why not start now to concentrate on Sat Karams – and highest Sat Karam for you at this time is to focus on Sat Naam Simran and keep on praying for the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva. So focusing on Lord’s Naam is not a mere understanding but it is a divine law and promise of the Guru – if you do so then you will get all the benefits that are described in Sukhmani Bandi First Ashtpadi .Material comforts will not take people out of the distress – desires are the reason for distress – there is no end to the desires – when one is fulfilled then there sill be a few nmore – and when the desires are not fulfilled then there is disappointment – and continued disappointment leads to mental dipression and physical and mental ailments – material comforts will never be able to diminish the desires – only the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and seva will be able to win over the desires and Doots – your needs are fullfilled but not he desires – so desires is the main reason for the distress and only Naam can help remove this distress.

Bhagvad Gita says there are 4 types of people who come to Lord – one in distress, one who nead material benefits, the inquisitive and finally those who are seeking absolute truth. And Lord loves them all, though He loves the last two categories more than first two, because they are selfless.
 
RESPONSE:Lord loves them all the same, Lord’s love is not different for different category of people, Lord is single vision – Ik Drisht – for Him all are equal, so where is the question of discrimination – it is the destiny that is different, everyone’s destiny is unique, because everone’s Karams are different – destiny is a function of your Karams – so the ones who get the cosmic conciousness their Karni goes in to a more and more pious and pavittar mode and their Karams become more and more Sat Karams and that way they are able to divert their destiny closer to the Almighty and eventually get the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva and they make their life sublime by achieving Jivan Mukti, and the ones who are absorbed in the worldly comforts and material gains remain drenched in the scum of Maya and continue to do so until they start to realize the sole purpose of their human life and start to work towards getting the Gur Parsaad.

These four classes can also be seen as four stages a lot of people go through.
As far as reciting Sukhmani is concerned, the recitation itself purifies the environment. So even if people are reciting it for material benefits they are getting purified by listeneing to Gurbani, which glorifies none else than the Supereme Lord.

RESPONSE:Reciting Gurbani is a Sat Karam, but doing Gurbani is a much higher level of Sat Karams, reading Sukhmani is a Sat Karam but doing what Sukhmani is telling you to do is the highest level of Sat Karam – PRABH KAA SIMRAN SABH TEY OONCHA, PRABH KEY SIMRAN SEHAJ SAMANI, PRABH KEY SIMRAN DARGEH MAANI, HARI SIMRAN MEH AAP NIRANKAARAA. So what would you like to do – recite Sukhmani or do Sukhmani, read Gurbani or become Gurbani – read Gurbani or do Gurbani – read Gurbani or become what Gurbani wants you to become. The purification of Hirda is the key – bringing your Hirda in Puran Sachyari Rehat and fill it with all the divine qualities is the key and you can purify the environment only by purification of your Hirda. So reading is not the key, doing is the key – that is why Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Patshah Ji have very clearly described in Asa Di Vaar – Padh Padh Gadda laddye . . . . . . Naam will purify the Hirda and nothing less then that – Naam Simran and Naam Ki Kamai will purify the Hirda and for purification of the environment a pure Hirda is needed – that is why where there is  Braham Gyani Sitting that place becomes purified.

There are a lot of instances in Gurbani where there is a mention of Kamdhenu- the holy cow that fulfills all wishes. There is mention of Lord as fulfiller of all material desires. So I think there is nothing wrong in asking for material benefits- moreover it depends on one’s mental state. People like me who are not spiritually advanced will ask for material benefits under the influence of material nature and it is not easy to change it overnight. So I think we should not be judgemental of other people like me, who are much below the spiritual ladder than other more advanced people. It is just like punishing a child who has intellect of 4 year old and can’t understand or make sense of a concept which requires an intellectual level of 10 yr old. Another way of looking at this would be to consider that even though the 4 year old child might have understanding of the concepts of a 10 year old’s level, he might not be able to implement those in his life because he has other restrictions-health, physical strength, mental strength. Similarly people might have a lot material sufferings to deal with before they surrender to Him. Lust for material benfits is one of the diseases, and listening to Sukhmani – whatever their intentions is only going to help them.

RESPONSE:A common person will not be able to get an access to the Kamdhenu just like that, Gurbani also tells us that the Akal Purakh is ever ready to give us all the Ridhis and Sidhis (for that matter there is no treasure bigger then these supernatural powers, which live under the charans of the ones who Trehu Gun Tey Parey – means who won over the Maya) so if you are thinking that Kamdhenu is sitting there to fulfil the wishes of a common person then that is an illusion, these are the rewards which are given to the Bhagat when He reaches the Puran Bandgi stage. There is nothing wrong in asking for material things (but your rewards will be only according to your destiny)– but that is not counted as Bandgi – Puran Bandgi is possible only without asking for anything – it can’t be conditional or based on material desires, and we are not being judgemental in anyway, we are just trying to bring out the eternal truth in simpler and plain words – if you want to get absorbed in God give your Tunn Munn and Dhan to the Gur and Guru – complete surrender with comittment and belief, faith and trust, devotion and love, and pray for the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva. Preaching for Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva is not punishing anybody, it is the Gur Parsaad and can really make you to grow to the heights of the spiritual world and achieve all the eternal treasures. Puran Bandgi is a path of giving giving and giving and not asking for anything except Parupkaar and Maha Parupkaar.

I agree with the need to have a lot of Naam Simran societies in the world, at the same time saying that the sole outcome of Sukhmani societies in India is material benefits would be wrong. I am not in touch with any society at present, but when I was very young I used to accompany my cousin ( who was 15 years older to me and was member of a Sukhmani society) every sunday to society’s programs.
 
RESPONSE:Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva is a Gur Parsaad and can’t be run by any kind of societies or organizations, that is another big illusion in the minds of those who think like that. A Puran Braham Gyani is a custodian of this Gur Parsaad which can’t be achieved through these societies. We are not talking about any such societies at all.

I still remeber they never charged any money from people hosting such recitations, they also insisted that parsad should be simple so that everyone can afford it. As i can remeber their sole aim was to raise awareness of this precious resource- Sukhmani sahib, and thus make people better sikhs.
 
RESPONSE:Again we are trying to preach Naam, Naam Simran, Naam Ki Kamai, Puran Bandgi and Seva and nothing else. WE JUST DON’T WANT PEOPLE TO BECOME AWARE, WE WANT THEM TO GET ABSORBED IN AKAL PURAKH BY ACHIEVING THE GUR PARSAAD OF NAAM, NAAM SIMRAN, NAAM KI KAMAI, PURAN BANDGI AND SEVA.

I am sorry I may have offended you by writing something, that you might find objectionable. Please forgive this ignorant sewak of yours if I have in any way hurt you or anybody else. And please enlighten me on anything you think is appropriate, all sugestions based on Gurbani are welcome.
 
RESPONSE:There is nothing offensive at all, all your questions are welcome, hope you find answers to your questions, all our Bandgi has been by doing Gurbani so all the Gur Parsaadee writings posted on the website www.satnaam.info are based on actual physical experiences, whatever Gurbani says has come true to us, Sukhmani has come true to us, whatever Gurbani says is happening physically to us on a daily basis, rewards of doing Gurbani are beyond description and are being experienced by us and other members of our Sat Sangat on a daily basis.

Thanks for your precious time, I pray to Lord for the company of spiritually advanced devotees of His.

Kind Regards

R Singh