Question:
Satnaam Satnaam ji Dandaut Baba ji dhan dhan are saints Bhagat Bandgi and their experience i cannot understand or translate them because i am not saint or bhagat.. What I really feel after reading experience is that when we cant say anything to the people or situation who are bothering us. Then we start beating them in dreams or visions. Our own anger or fear brings shapes and symbols that we think are negative or bad and we started beating devi devtas or other deities. Because we already think that they are lower than us and we are higher. My problem is not that people are beating hindu gods or other . But problem is how can we accept or love the people who had different beliefs than us. We can not go to their houses and break statutes and beat their beliefs beacause we think our belief is superior and true. That only will created hatred not love. Please put light on this. Love all bless all. Please Forgive if I hurt anyone’s belief.
Answer:
What we learned from satnaam baba ji is that every single hope, wish, desire in the mind is represented by the 330 million demigods. Then destructive, neutral and creative sides of the mind are represented by shiva, vishnu and brahma. Then the darkness the mind is operating in is represented by maya. Then beyond that is the light and is represented by the saints and union experience is represented by marriage. The whole journey is within us so we have to conquer our mind. Conquering our mind baba ji says is to break all our minds entanglements due to our hopes, wishes, desires, 5 demons, destructive, creative and neutral tendencies. So we have to beat our minds own bad habits whilst awake (conscious mind), whilst dreaming and even in samadhi (subconscious mind). But when we start doing satnaam and good deeds and practise Truth, Love and Compassion, service, respect and all other divine qualities, then we are pulled back by our our old habits. So when we have visions of beating things it is beating our own mind in order to get past that level of consciousness. That’s what those scenes represent. It means we have beaten those habits and false beliefs we were stuck in. It doesn’t mean we hate others who have those beliefs. If we are beating maya in the form of a pretty woman/man/witch. It doesn’t mean we hate pretty women/men. It means we are defeating our mind which is strongly desiring that. Hence why maya takes that form to give us what we want. And keep us stuck in that level of consciousness. When we beat those things it literally means we have beaten the desire for those things. We are free from those wants. So gurbani says there are countless shivas, brahmas, vushnus. We asked baba ji and they said that’s because their are countless human minds stuck in those consciousnesses. Also baba ji said there is a parallel world. So whatever consciousness level our mind is in, then there is a parallel realm where those deities exist. So if we are a worshipper of shiva, chanting his name, we will go into samadhi and enter his heaven, shiva puri. He will give us his gifts and we will be happy. Other demigods all do the same. Whichever level of consciousness we are in our mind wants to keep us there. So when dassan dass ji wrote they had experience of vishnu dancing around them for 45 minutes. But we asked why didn’t you bow to him? Baba ji said because vishnu was trying to make dassan dass ji his follower, but dassan dass ji knew his guru is higher. But if we don’t have satnaam and don’t know that is the highest guru then we will be stuck at lower levels of consciousness. That is why in amit jis spiritual journey he greatly respected hindu demigods but on doing satnaam he went to their parallel realms and was shown they are not the highest. He was very respectful to shiva but told him to do satnaam and shiva got very angry and tried attacking him. Amit ji was taken aback. It means that in amit jis mind it is very hard for him to go beyond shiva consciousness level. But he kept doing his simran and a few months later he had been made into a warrior by tenth guru (means heart was stronger) and out of his control he went to all three heavens of vishnu, shiva and brahma and smashed them. It doesn’t mean he hated Hinduism it means he conquered his own minds bad habits. The root cause of creative, destructive and neutral behaviours inside us. He conquered his mind by beating it. That’s what the beating means. It’s not hatred. But, mind is not our friend on this path so has to be beaten as in defeated. No one gets out of the mind. Mind makes damn sure of that. Unless we have guru who is higher than the mind. Satnaam Satnaam Satnaam ji.
So also when past and present saints have defeated maya and 5 demons and demigods then why do those entities still exist in the creation and in everyone’s mind? Because they only defeated their own personal representation on them as in their mind. And we have to do the same. All those are energies that run the creation and the same energies run our mind. JO brahmande so pinde. As is in the universe so is inside this body.
So just by defeating our own mind (all these energies inside us) we have defeated these energies running the whole of creation as well and gone beyond to the light/heart. Munn jeeta jug jeet. Conquering the mind you conquer the world.
So when we read someone’s experiences we just see they are battling through the layers of their own mind. Battle within, not against others.
“Khalsa/pure one is the one who battles daily.. Khalsa so Jo karay nit Jang.”
Bhai Nand Lal ji.
Dassan dass ji wrote that bandagi is waging war against maya.
Then on being defeated those entities then come again with hands pressed, head lowered and bow to you. It means they do not control you anymore. They have nothing you want. They have no power over you anymore. When you have defeated them all, then the mind itself has no power over you anymore. In fact, baba ji said when they bow to you it is actually God bowing to you. Everything is him and he bows in that form to you in your form.
It is only our wants and fears that we have to beat. When we have wants then we don’t see the true essence of those around us. We look at a pretty person and see them with desire. When we defeat the desire deep down in our mind, then we only see them with love, kindness, Compassion and wash their feet with our eyes. Maya offers us what we want, we dont want it and see the beauty of God instead. So beating these entities our eyes get washed. We see the truth clearly.
Even when ghosts, demons or snakes or other entities come to scare us, mind under maya would get scared. But when we have defeated fear then we are compassionate to those beings too.
Mohali Mata ji said that even a snake comes infront of her inner eye she just says to God inside it, “this is you as well.” she said many times she has seen ghosts and demons and at first they try their best to scare you. But she only sees God in them and prays for them. They get blessed and are thankful.
So again she has conquered fear under maya from her mind. And gone into compassion under heart. She said that if God has created demons then he has also created a way to save them : Pasoo preth mugadh kau taray.
So this is the journey through the mind. From defeating our ego’s wants and fears to a heartful of Truth, Love and Compassion. First we beat them through battling. Then we beat them with Compassion.
DASSAN DASS JI: Sudhakar we don’t want to fight with anyone. But when these demigods try to create problems for us then it happens by itself as a HUKAM of DHAN DHAN SAT PARBRAHAM PARMESAR. We don’t hate the demigods but what they do is incorrect in light of POORAN BRAHAM GYAN and we try to overcome their resistance because they sometimes come to distract us and disturb our BANDGI.
In our process of BANDGI of Akal PURAKH the demigods try to create problems then the divine power takes over and removes the roadblocks created by these demigods.
None of us when sits for simran plans to beat these demigods but when we go in to higher planes during simran then we have these kind of encounters with these demigods by itself because our love for sat PARBRAHAM PARMESAR can’t bear any obstructions and then the divine power fights and defeats them by itself. So all we are doing is following the POORAN SAT POORAN BRAHAM GYAN and Note hate any CREATION.
In LUDHIANA SATNAAM SANGAT Kali Mata tried to hurt a 6-7 years old kid. What do you think we should do to protect this kid who is doing SATNAAM simran and dancing in joy of sat PARBRAHAM PARMESAR.
Because this young kid has come to the SATNAAM SANGAT don’t you think it is our responsibility to protect this kid from Kali Mata attacks. Same kind of things these demigods do to some SATNAAM SANGAT members. What do you think about their misbehavior like this.
Sometimes these demigods go to a very extremist behavior to hurt SATNAAM SANGAT members. And there are numerous examples that we have experienced like this So what should we do. Stop following the POORAN SAT and follow these demigods?
Be afraid of them and leave in between?
Let them harm the ones who are surrendering to the POORAN SAT ?
Don’t become NIRBHAO and NIRVAIR and get stuck like them without achieving Jivan multi ?
Because only NIRBHAO NIRVAIR can deliver POORAN SAT. So should we stop becoming NIRBHAO and NIRVAIR and give up following the POORAN SAT.
We don’t hate anyone or any CREATION that’s why we try to show these demigods the right path to follow so they can achieve Jivan MUKTI but if they want to fight with POORAN SAT then what do we do ?
So try to understand the truth behind everything that happens and has a purpose behind it under the divine order. You can understand this only when your conscious reaches that level. So work on yourself so you can be there to understand how can POORAN SAT DELIVERED AND SERVED.
In the SATNAAM SANGAT DARGAH appears and keep in your mind that nothing wrong can happen in the DARGAH.
We hope that your questions are answered. Let us know if you need more clarifications. But please focus on your SATNAAM simran and surrender and follow the POORAN SAT. That’s the key to your success.
We all in SATNAAM SANGAT will continue to fight for serving the POORAN SAT AND DELIVERING THE POORAN SAT AND NO COMPROMISES With THAT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THIS IS ALL SATNAAM SANGAT IS ABOUT. IT IS CREATION OF SAT PARBRAHAM PARMESAR HIMSELF AND IS BEING RUN BY HIMSELF. HE IS MAKING EVERYTHING HAPPENS BY HIMSELF IN EVERY SATNAAM SANGAT BE IT ANYWHERE ON THE EARTH.
SO PLEASE DONT UNDERMINE ITS APPEARANCE ON THIS EARTH. THIS IS A RESULT OF THE HIGHEST BLESSING OF SAT PARBRAHAM PARMESAR HIMSELF AND HE HIMSELF IS DOING EVERYTHING BE IT BEATING THE DEMIGODS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SATNAAM Bless You ALL ALWAYS
PLEASE DONT TAKE IT LIGHTLY TAKE YOUR BANDGI With FULL SERIOUSNESS.
Just received a case in point. This is the message we just received from Lagandeep wanted to share with you all so you understand today’s KATHA.
Satnaam. Dandaut bandna pitaji aap Ji de sat charna kamla te.
Pitaji while doing simran
Shivaji dance in front of in full aggression with his trishul .
In our mind AASI PRAYER KAR RAHE HA AND I SAW KHANDNA IN FRONT OF OUR EYES AND IN CRNTRE OF OUR FOREHEAD WHICH I HV GOT FRM AAP JI IN FARIDKOT SANGAT AS BLESSING.
Pitaji aasi oh khanda apne age rakh ke Shivaji nu request kar rahe ha Ki aap Ji sada rah Nahi ho sada raha sada satguru Sat parbharam parmeshwar Ji han but after listening this Shivaji start dancing with more power and force and aasi ohna nu dandaut karke kende rahe Ki aap Ji sada rah Chad do aap Ji sada rah Nahi ho.
Aasi ohna nu keh rahe ha Ki aasi apne guru valo diti daat da misuse Nahi karna chande.
But after se wait when he didn’t stop Sade hath automatically istra ho Gaye jive Sade hath Vich danush ha te aasi is Vich shiv Ji nu ok teer maar dita.
Then suddenly he left my way .
Dhan dhan Aape aap Ji
Sab Tera Tera Tera mera mujhme kuch Nahi Baksh Dena pitaji is maha moorak nu maha papi nu
This clearly demonstrated the KATHA we just concluded.
In the past Kali Mata had made Lagandeep’s life hell. She really had to fight her out. Then we had to give her the Khanda for her protection.
So these demigods are very stubborn and hard to deal with. They don’t understand the language of love.
So to beat tho the divine order takes over by itself.
Same thing happened with Preetinder yesterday. Strong case in point.
Baba Balak Nath hurting a 8 years old boy since his birth. The boy can’t talk. And Balak Nath shamelessly holding this innocent kid from letting him to learn speak MAKING him handicapped. The boys parents bring them to SATNAAM SANGAT. What do we do ?
Should we not help this boy?
Should we not beat Balak Nath ?
They force us to take such actions.
These demigods are so shameless
Rupy you are right everyone’s BANDGI is unique.
That’s the reason Balak Nath is suffering for so long and will continue to His misdoings are unpardonable The more people follow him the more his punishment is getting longer
Hope everyone gets a lesson from today’s KATHA.